does anyone know where i can get a pdf version of this book?
i’ve always wanted a physical copy but those seem really hard to come by, and if you look online they’re super expensive.
thank you.. -jules.
Regarding Raymond Franz books, I have both PDF copies, completely legal. I paid for them when they were still available about six years ago. Since I paid for them, I guess that gives me the right to gift them. Send me a PM
I also have the Spanish version of CC. I didn't pay for it, so I am bit nervous about it. Anyone wants to help me unload this burden?
does anyone know where i can get a pdf version of this book?
i’ve always wanted a physical copy but those seem really hard to come by, and if you look online they’re super expensive.
thank you.. -jules.
Interesting thing about window cleaning and JWism. They do seem to run together. Lots of JW's that I know are in the cleaning business. Some work for others, some do it solo, some own a small cleaning company. If I go by what the self employed cleaners tell me, then they make a decent living. This seems to be a very common job for the less educated.
Interestingly enough, in the Hispanic community there's a very common job for the better educated, the type of people who could have gone to ,or actually attended university. The job is translator, often working in the court system. I actually believe that this type of job is even promoted by the "job counselors" in the congregation. It's a job where you don't employ critical thinking skills, even though, you are likely to be very smart.
so we have all heard the worldwide reports about khalls being sold off and congregations being amalgamated etc.... of course, jws are being told that these actions are a sign of "just how much the work is progressing, and how jehovah is blessing the increase and expansion!".
i can share the following from my part of the world too!.
in perth, western australia the following has occurred.. three "new" congregations have been formed!
The JW's may not attend university, but they are well versed in mathematical concepts. What they do is they always add, never subtract. So in this case the algebraic sum is as follows (+5) + (-2) = 3 Isn't it wonderful?... always adding.
my first thought when seeing this headline was; "how could trump be right?
" even though i am registered as a republican, i don't really care for trump.
after reading the article, i still don't care for trump, but i had never considered many of the points brought out by the article.. january 17, 2018. what i learned in the peace corps in africa: trump is right.
American Thinker is a conservative magazine which, just as liberal magazines do, tells its side of the story. I wouldn't blindly trust the experience of this woman as representative of the whole of Africa. I have met and done business with plenty of African people here in the U.S. and my experience has always been positive. In fact, based on that experience, I can tell without any hesitation that those Africans people are more honorable and trustworthy than black people raised in Christian America. Sorry, that's my experience. Have I been unlucky in my deals with black Americans and lucky in dealing with black Africans?? perhaps, but I can only speak from experience.
good afternoon , .
i have been having doubts for many years and as most jw's i have certainly not done myself a favor by suppressing all of my critical thinking.
i am married with 3 kids and my wife and i are inactive, but my wife has made it very clear in speech and action that she wants to go to all meetings, field service, and indoctrinate our kids.
Dubstepped,
I wasn't thinking of legal rights, but the individual rights that unfortunately even governments fail to protect. In this case there is two conflicting opinions on how to raise children, the opinion of the parent out of the cult and the opinion of the parent inside the cult. I think a reasonable arbiter would favor the parent outside the cult. What can be the arguments??? easy...shunning, no higher education, no blood transfusions, no association with worldly people, downright psychological abuse with talks and images about destruction, robbing of childhood time with countless hours in meetings and field service....etc.
good afternoon , .
i have been having doubts for many years and as most jw's i have certainly not done myself a favor by suppressing all of my critical thinking.
i am married with 3 kids and my wife and i are inactive, but my wife has made it very clear in speech and action that she wants to go to all meetings, field service, and indoctrinate our kids.
"she wants to go to all meetings, field service, and indoctrinate our kids"
Your wife has all the rights, including offering herself as a sexual slave to the governing body (not kidding). However, she has no right to enslave her children to any cult. Not negotiable at all.
jehovah's witnesses to settle sex-abuse case - san diego reader (california, us), friday, january 12, 2018.
. @Bobby
"What they possibly could pay out in settlements, they receive 100 fold in donations, so that’s not going to drain them in and of itself."
You have a point. However the bigger drain comes from membership losses resulting from the negative exposure. The financial troubles for the WT are just beginning, but it will be a decades long process before they can even think about folding. Their portfolio of real estate is still quite healthy.
i have been meeting with member's of the kingdom hall, and i have attended a few times now on sundays.
i'd like to discuss experiences with this group since i'm new.
so far, i love it.
ex-Mormon?
next ex-JW,
next ex-Scientologist?,
next a member of Heaven's Gate type of religion
next ashes
You may want a make a correction to this path. Make a U turn ASAP
loyalty appears to be the buzzword constantly promoted by the gb at the moment.
we hear it at conventions, assemblies, and meetings.. let's face it loyalty covers so much.
shunning of family, friends etc.
Micah 6:8 revised version NWT 2013): He has told you, O man, what is good.And what is Jehovah requiring of you? Only to exercise justice, to cherish loyalty, And to walk in modesty with your God
Micah 6:8 Jewish Publication Society (JPS) Tanakh: It hath been told thee, O man, what is good, And what the LORD doth require of thee: Only to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God.
I think Jews know Hebrew better than the anonymous translators of the NWT 2013
all creationist arguments follow an identical pattern.. first a quick way to remember the format - 'complexity, complexity, complexity; therefore god'.. now a more detailed guide to formulating an argument.. identify some complex feature of the natural world.
a quick google search or nature documentary will quickly provide inspiration.
creationist websites have hundreds of them you can copy-paste without attribution.. do no research at all on what is currently known about the evolutionary history of this feature.
Venus:"No, evolution and creation both are a matter of faith"
Two things couldn't be farther apart. It's sad the state of things today; people still believe the myths and fables of 3,000 years ago were facts. Never mind that those myths are from the same book that requires stoning women who were not virgin at wedding day.
